Rethinking Leadership: Clarity, Kindness & Community with Ed Brenegar
Gail McDonald sits down with Ed Brenegar—leadership thought leader, writer, podcaster, and social catalyst—to explore what leadership really means in a time when old systems are breaking down and new models are emerging.
Ed, author of eight books and creator of The Future of Leadership on Substack, shares why leadership has nothing to do with titles and everything to do with initiative, clarity, and community. Together, they unpack how great organizations are built—not through hierarchy—but through trust, human connection, and the willingness to empower people at every level.
This conversation covers:
• Why most companies run their business but don’t truly lead
• How clarity of values, purpose, and impact transforms organizations
• The hidden leadership already happening in the “lower” levels of every company
• The Five Actions of Gratitude and how they can shift an entire culture
• Why kindness is strategic—and how to embed it into daily work
• How to help teams think clearly, innovate, and speak up
• Why saying “no” is essential for leaders
• The dangers of the Dunning–Kruger effect and how to stay curious
• How to believe in yourself without posturing or ego
• The sleep routine that helped Ed write one of his most impactful books
Ed’s storytelling, insight, and lived experience offer a refreshing, human approach to leadership—rooted in dignity, community, and genuine impact. Whether you’re a leader, manager, or anyone wanting to make a difference, this episode will expand how you see your role and your capacity.
Ed Brenegar
Books Referenced
Moral Ambition by Rutger Bregman
May Your No Be a Yes by Ed Brenegar
The Circle of Impact by Ed Brenegar
Generational Memory: Restoring Community in the Continuity of Time (Ed’s forthcoming book; working title)
